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	<title>Comments on: The Deadly Game of Climate Change Denial</title>
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		<title>By: Erwin Noyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erwin Noyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read Ms Penn&#039;s commentary and was not aware until I finished reading it that it was written  year ago.
It seems that we may again be having a much harsher than normal winter, how many years do these El Ninos last?

I wish to get better educated  on the subject of &#039;climate change&#039; so have a few questions which I would appreciate some reasonable answers from Dr. Penn and all of you &#039;out there&#039; to help enlighten me:

!. I am told that the current interglacial period was brought about by man-made global warming, if this is so, what then was the cause of the previous approx nine interglacial periods? Surely they couldn&#039;t also have been man made, as for the most part, there were no &#039;men&#039; on the planet at that time?

2. The Ontario Min. of Agrriculture publish guidelines for releasing CO2 in greenhouses as a means of increasing green house crop production, evidently CO2 acts as a fertilizer. I read that even in amounts as high as 9 % or 90,000 ppm, crops increase as much as 30 to 40 %; and also that increases as much as 375 ppm (a doubling of the current 375 ppm in our atmoshere is very beneficial (maybe 8 to 9 %). Evidently it is a proven fact that CO2 increases result in higher crop production. Assuming this to be the case; then why would any learned person, advocate a reduction of CO2 in our atmosphere as to do so would result in a reduction of the world&#039;s food supply?

These are very important questions and I expect those who advocate CO2 controls or &quot;man made climate change&quot; will have the answers&gt; I am waiting to hear from you.
Erwin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Ms Penn&#8217;s commentary and was not aware until I finished reading it that it was written  year ago.<br />
It seems that we may again be having a much harsher than normal winter, how many years do these El Ninos last?</p>
<p>I wish to get better educated  on the subject of &#8216;climate change&#8217; so have a few questions which I would appreciate some reasonable answers from Dr. Penn and all of you &#8216;out there&#8217; to help enlighten me:</p>
<p>!. I am told that the current interglacial period was brought about by man-made global warming, if this is so, what then was the cause of the previous approx nine interglacial periods? Surely they couldn&#8217;t also have been man made, as for the most part, there were no &#8216;men&#8217; on the planet at that time?</p>
<p>2. The Ontario Min. of Agrriculture publish guidelines for releasing CO2 in greenhouses as a means of increasing green house crop production, evidently CO2 acts as a fertilizer. I read that even in amounts as high as 9 % or 90,000 ppm, crops increase as much as 30 to 40 %; and also that increases as much as 375 ppm (a doubling of the current 375 ppm in our atmoshere is very beneficial (maybe 8 to 9 %). Evidently it is a proven fact that CO2 increases result in higher crop production. Assuming this to be the case; then why would any learned person, advocate a reduction of CO2 in our atmosphere as to do so would result in a reduction of the world&#8217;s food supply?</p>
<p>These are very important questions and I expect those who advocate CO2 controls or &#8220;man made climate change&#8221; will have the answers&gt; I am waiting to hear from you.<br />
Erwin</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Manns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Manns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“• What is the current scientific consensus on the conclusions reached by Drs. Mann, Bradley and Hughes? [Referring to the hockey stick propagated in UN IPCC 2001 by Michael Mann.]
Ans: Based on the literature we have reviewed, there is no overarching consensus on MBH98/99.   As analyzed in our social network, there is a tightly knit group of individuals who passionately believe in their thesis. However, our perception is that this group has a self-reinforcing feedback mechanism and, moreover, the work has been sufficiently politicized that they can hardly reassess their public positions without losing credibility.”  
AD HOC COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE ‘HOCKEY  STICK’ GLOBAL CLIMATE RECONSTRUCTION, also known as The Wegman report was authored by Edward J. Wegman, George Mason University, David W. Scott, Rice University, and Yasmin H. Said, The Johns Hopkins University with the contributions of John T. Rigsby, III, Naval Surface Warfare Center, and Denise M. Reeves, MITRE Corporation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“• What is the current scientific consensus on the conclusions reached by Drs. Mann, Bradley and Hughes? [Referring to the hockey stick propagated in UN IPCC 2001 by Michael Mann.]<br />
Ans: Based on the literature we have reviewed, there is no overarching consensus on MBH98/99.   As analyzed in our social network, there is a tightly knit group of individuals who passionately believe in their thesis. However, our perception is that this group has a self-reinforcing feedback mechanism and, moreover, the work has been sufficiently politicized that they can hardly reassess their public positions without losing credibility.”<br />
AD HOC COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE ‘HOCKEY  STICK’ GLOBAL CLIMATE RECONSTRUCTION, also known as The Wegman report was authored by Edward J. Wegman, George Mason University, David W. Scott, Rice University, and Yasmin H. Said, The Johns Hopkins University with the contributions of John T. Rigsby, III, Naval Surface Warfare Center, and Denise M. Reeves, MITRE Corporation.</p>
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		<title>By: richard pauli</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard pauli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are far too tame. 
Informing people does not suffice.  Why would they give up the moment for the future?  Denialism is equivalent to mass murder.  We are just too timid to speak up and demand that it stop.

&quot;Ourselves AND our posterity&quot; nor OR. 

Our children are now forced into making ruthless and radical choices that we cannot even comprehend.   I am sure they will not be happy about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are far too tame.<br />
Informing people does not suffice.  Why would they give up the moment for the future?  Denialism is equivalent to mass murder.  We are just too timid to speak up and demand that it stop.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ourselves AND our posterity&#8221; nor OR. </p>
<p>Our children are now forced into making ruthless and radical choices that we cannot even comprehend.   I am sure they will not be happy about it.</p>
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		<title>By: jcwinnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcwinnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think of the simple demonstration by Richard P. Feynman to challenge the Morton-Thikol / NASA O-ring mistake in judgment that cost lives. Yes, the special interests are using kitchen sink tactics, and, as Gandhi exhorted, &quot;First they ignore you, then then laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.&quot; Rather than sophisticated psychological tit-for-tat, you win with clear examples that cut through the male bovine manure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of the simple demonstration by Richard P. Feynman to challenge the Morton-Thikol / NASA O-ring mistake in judgment that cost lives. Yes, the special interests are using kitchen sink tactics, and, as Gandhi exhorted, &#8220;First they ignore you, then then laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.&#8221; Rather than sophisticated psychological tit-for-tat, you win with clear examples that cut through the male bovine manure.</p>
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